For some people, the parts that are actually “on” a car are what really make it stand out from the crowd. It could be that rare OEM accessory, those unique mag wheels, or a shiny after market valve cover. Whatever it is, you wanted it because you knew the guy parked next to you at the show will most definitely NOT have it on his car. For some of us, it is necessary, that is unless you have some sort of ultra-rare low numbers car that speaks for itself all original… Otherwise, the rest of us tend to search the local classifieds, online auto forums, Ebay, flea markets, yard sales, craigslist, etc. for that “killer deal” on that perfect part to finish off your project. There are many different options when it comes to the restoration and modification of your vehicle. For myself, personally, I am a nut for old vintage aftermarket parts for the European vehicles that I tinker with. Anything from old race parts, to retro steering wheels, to literature, I am constantly seeking out rare old pieces of history from these cars.
Possibly my biggest obsession is vintage after market alloys or “rims”. I think the correct wheel on a modified car can REALLY make a car stand out (in both good and bad ways!). Sometimes, I even feel this can make or break the overall “feel” of a vehicle. For instance, think of a guy at a show that has a classic older 60’s-70’s car, and he threw on some cheap, borderline tacky chrome wheels he picked up at the local auto parts chain… it makes you almost cringe as he rolls into the show and parks next to the 100 point restoration car.. This is why, often times, picking out a set of “summer wheels” for my cars, (yes I change them every summer.. see my “in deep” blog post for supporting info) I spend a lot of time searching for, and deciding on the “right” set of wheels for my car. So when I went out and began looking for a set of alloys for my daily driver 1984 Mercedes Benz 190e, I spent considerable time deciding on the “right” wheel. I mean come on, I will have to look at it every day in the parking lot at work! Not to mention, I can’t be the laughing stock, rolling into work with tacky chrome wheels from the local auto parts store.. I’d never live it down!
After a tip from a friend and a horrible Ebay experience, I acquired a set of wheels that most of the European car community lusts for. These wheels were made by Ronal as a race-spec option to their common one piece “Turbo” wheel. These wheels are a three piece construction and have magnesium centers (these suckers are light!). With these wheels, you basically custom ordered the wheels specifically for the car you wanted to put them on, you could pick any offset/backspacing, bolt pattern, width, etc. Ronal would simply assemble the wheels to your specs using different width lips and barrels. Since these wheels were quite expensive, and made specifically for dedicated race cars, making a set of these wheels fit a street car takes a bit of fiddling (and luck!). Before any of that, I had to work on restoring these wheels, they were off of a 70’s Porsche road-race car, and had been sitting for sometime. I was lucky that the original finish on the Magnesium centers had protected the wheels a bit, and they hadn’t begun to deteriorate like many old Magnesium wheels tend to. You can see in the pictures below, these wheels needed some work!
There are a few different types of fasteners used to hold multi piece race wheels together. Back in the 70’s-80’s it varied by company, companies like BBS used bolts with 12 point heads, while other companies used inverted 12 point bolts. Luckily Ronal used a simple socket head allen bolt to attach the wheels together. First you want to make sure you clean out the openings in the allen head bolts, as they have a tendency to strip the allen key opening out if the key isn’t seated fully! Once all of the bolts have been removed from the wheel, depending on your luck, the type of wheel, and if it has ever been apart before, the wheel should come apart into 2-3 pieces. Some multi-piece wheels used a very strong adhesive to seal the wheels and require the wheels to be pressed apart. Luckily these wheels originally used a metal seal with a rubber ring to seal them. This was nice because only a light tap with a rubber mallet was necessary to split the three pieces. In the pics below you can see how the center of the wheel was stuck in the outer lip of the wheel. A couple taps of the mallet quickly separated the parts.
After splitting the wheels, I took some measurements, inspected them for any damage or major issues. Luckily they were all in satisfactory condition. It was evident that the wheels were definitely used for some time as dedicated race wheels. I concluded at that point I would need to fully blast the centers of the wheels, as the coating over the magnesium was not in the best of shape and there was minor deterioration beginning at the edges of the centers. Unfortunately these were a little too big for my own personal counter top blaster, so I used our large blaster in R&D here at Eastwood. In hindsight, I would advise if you are in the market for a blast cabinet, that you go with one that is a size larger than what you “think” you will need. This is a perfect example.. when I first bought a cabinet, I was only blasting and powder coating small engine and chassis parts, now years later I am powdercoating entire rear axles and wheel sets!
Once split, the wheels sat in my office at home for a few weeks while my indecisiveness over what color powder to cover them in passed. I finally got the time to bring the centers into work and make them look great again. I began by choosing Aluminum Oxide blasting media. Because the wheel centers are made of a fairly “soft” metal, I chose Aluminum Oxide over a traditional course-grit sand. While blasting, I made sure to hold the tip of the blaster about 12 to 14 inches from the surface of the wheel center, as to avoid any major pitting or further deterioration of the metal. This process did take a bit longer than if I was blasting a steel wheel with straight sand, but when working with softer metals, it is necessary. Another tip when blasting, is to sift the media and reuse it. With the cabinet in our shop, it all falls down into the center of the cabinet, and is sucked back up with the gun. Occasionally I’ve found that you may need to drain the media and sift it to separate all the dirt, grime, paint flakes etc. This is a good precaution to save from having the gun clog up on you and cause headaches. In the pictures below, you can see these came out pretty nice with the necessary time and effort put into blasting them clean. Take note of the difference between a blasted center and a non blasted center, cleanest they have been in probably 20+ years!
Once I was sure all of the old paint, grime, etc. was blasted from the centers, I went on to clean the surface of each center, first with Chassis Kleen, followed by Pre before beginning the process of powder coating. The chassis kleen gets any major grease, dirt and film from the media off the surface, while PRE removes any last bit of residue from the blast media as well as oils from my hands. At this point I normally begin to wear rubber gloves to avoid any oils or grease from my hands to get on the wheels. I can not stress enough that the key to getting a nice finish on anything you powder coat is to clean, clean, clean and clean again! You’d be surprised what a little bit of oil or grease from your hands can do to powder once it is curing. Most times that is the main cause of “fisheyes” and other common issues in cured powder.
I’ve found with vintage alloy wheels, that because they see so much road debris, the metal tends to really hold onto that dirt and grime. This often times gets baked into the wheels from the heating and cooling of the metal when under normal driving conditions. I found it is a best precautionary step to preheat the parts before spraying them with powder. Magnesium is known to be a very porous metal, so I was taking no chances of having any contaminants “outgas” when baking the powder. I’ve found that baking the parts to 350 degrees for 20 minutes takes care of most of those issues.
This part is a little tricky to do on your own, but if you prepare your workspace ahead of time, it can be the key to a nice finish on the wheels. Immediately after removing the parts from the oven, you want to begin dusting them with powder. With the parts being nice and hot, you will find the powder sticks very well to the part, and may even begin to flow out before you put it in the oven. I settled on our Hot Coat Bronze Metallic powder. When powder coating wheels, I like to lay the powder nice and thick, as these will see a bit of abuse from road debris. You can even see in the pics below that the centers I had sprayed first (in the foreground) have begun to flow-out. It is cool when you see this, because you get a hint of what the finished product will look like!
After baking the parts for 25-30 minutes, I quickly pulled them out of the oven to inspect. At this point I was happy with the coverage of the color and also assured there were no major “fisheyes”, or that any out-gassing had occurred. I then put the wheels immediately back into the spray booth and laid another nice thick coat (actually I was a little too zealous in my “nice thick coat”, more on this another time) of our Super High Gloss Clear powder. Again, I baked the centers for the appropriate time, and removed them to cool. The clear is necessary on most of our metallic powders, especially if it is something that will see a lot of direct sunlight (as these wheels will). I actually think the clear powder really made the metallic in the bronze powder “pop”, and left it with a nice smooth “wet” finish.
After getting the centers all nice and shiny again, I turned to polishing the outer lips of the wheels. Often times these old multi piece wheels came with polished aluminum lips, but if you didn’t keep up with constantly cleaning the metal, they would get stained and the finish became dull. Most racers aren’t worried about how clean their wheels are, so these lips were no exception. They even had some old brake dust baked onto them. I decided to wet sand the lips with 2000 grit paper to get the staining and brake dust removed. I then followed up with a set of our buff wheels and compounds on one of our table top buffers to get the surface of the wheel extremely shiny again. You can see the major difference just in the little bit of time I spent on this one lip! Once the wheels are assembled and complete, I usually go back and do one final polish with rubbing compound (more on that later).
Once all of the major cleaning and polishing of the barrels and lips was done (some may choose to powdercoat the barrels, but mine were in good shape), I began reassembling the wheels. As mentioned earlier, these wheels used socket head allen bolts. I usually install all of the bolts with a dab of thread locking sealant (I prefer the “lighter duty” stuff) and tighten each bolt down a few threads by hand first. Once all of the nuts and bolts are mounted, you want to go around the wheel in a “X” or criss-cross pattern until all of the bolts are snug. For the final rotation, you then want to go around the wheels with a torque wrench and torque all of the bolts to the proper torque. I’ve found a good torque for most three piece wheels is 22-27 pounds. A lot of two piece wheels actually have the barrels drilled and tapped, which actually results in the wheels requiring a torque setting at the lower end of those numbers. Once the wheels were all bolted together, I begin running a bead of silicone around the center of the wheel where all of the pieces of the wheel meet. This is a “must” on wheels that came originally bonded together. The silicone is what actually makes the wheel airtight. Even though these wheels were not bonded originally from Ronal, I chose to apply sealer for piece of mind. I’ve found the original rubber seals on these wheels can tend to get dry and crack, allowing the wheel to leak air. I choose to use Permatex brand sealant. Particularly I use their high temperature sealant that is black in color. I’ve found that it holds up quite well to the conditions inside a tire, not to mention it is easily available at any major auto parts store. I’ve found that one “caulk” tube will be enough to do 1-2 sets of wheels. The idea with sealing the wheel is to get a nice smooth bead with little to no pinholes (any pinholes in the sealant can allow air to leak by). I usually start with a thin bead around the entire center valley in the wheel. After laying the first bead, I run my finger around the center of the wheel creating a smooth, flat, even bead of sealant. From here, you want to allow the sealant to cure for 24 hours. After it has fully dried, you can now lay a second similar coat of sealant, again trying to make the bead as smooth and even as possible with your finger. This bead you want to try and make sure any possible pinholes are covered and smoothed over. Again let dry for 24 hours, and then you are ready to mount a set of tires!
Once I have mounted the tires, I like to let the wheels sit for a day or two (sometimes up to a week), and check the tire pressure periodically. Not much is worse than mounting a set of multi-piece wheels, and finding that one of your “seal jobs” was bad and you have to remove the wheel off your car and reseal it! For the final step, I like to do a final polish of the lips, and seal the finish to avoid any tarnishing occurring from exposure to the elements. As you can see in the first picture below, those shiny lips are going to still have a slight haze to them after buffing, along with fingerprints and other grease that can make its way onto the wheels from reassembling them. I like to use two shop rags (one for application and one for wiping the surface clean), and AutoSol for rubbing out the lips to a final mirror-like finish. You can apply/rub in the polish and then wipe clean numerous times, until you get the desired shine. Hard to mess this step up (other than just making a plain mess everywhere!) Autosol really brings out the shine in polished metal, and finally makes all that sanding, buffing, etc. worthwhile!
Once you wipe all of the remaining Autosol off, you need to prep the surface with Pre to get the lip ready for a sealer. Recently we came out with a product designed to save you the need to repolish the shiny bits on your ride so often. I wanted to give it a try, as I absolutely loathe the process of repolishing my wheels every time it rains, or after a long drive! Our new product Metal Protect uses the newest nano-barrier technology to coat and seal polished metal, all while being nearly undetectable once dried. I was a bit skeptical as it comes in a aerosol can, and I just pictured myself spraying it on and it looking like bad “clear coat”. Luckily the Metal Protect was designed to self-level. This means that it smooths out as the Metal Protect dries. The key to applying I found, was to spray on two light “dust coats”. You can see how in the first two pictures it seems like it is going to dry very textured, but by the end, it smoothed out quite nicely. I will admit I did lay it on a little thick in spots, and I can see some minor orange peel up close, in retrospect my second coat could have been much lighter. After I got the wheels polished and sealed, I took my car to a local car show. The show was held in a large grass field in which I had to drive through a muddy, stone road to get to the show field (the heavy downpour the night before didn’t help!), so the Metal Protect was immediately put through it’s paces. I am happy to report that after the weekend show, I came home and washed the car like normal, wiped the wheels down with a microfiber, and they still look great! No water stains or hazing that I would normally have to polish out after a heavy storm! The jury is still out on how long it will hold up on my daily driver, but I am sure this would work GREAT on parts in your engine bay and trim on the exterior of the car that don’t generally see as bad of conditions as a set of wheels would!
I hope this gave everyone a small insight into the procedure for restoring old alloy wheels. If you have any questions about a part of the procedure that I missed, or you want clarification on something, feel free to post a comment! Below are a couple pictures of the wheels finished and on the car from the show I mentioned above. Thanks for reading, and keep scouring those flea markets and swap meets for parts!
-Matt
Very involved process but the results are well worth it. Hard to get the layman to understand why auto restoration is so involved
Try Moss Motors, they will have a Rosstyle template.
Turned out very nice.
Check out Excellence magazine, about Porsches, there are ads for firms that specialize in wheel restoration that build up welds and turn, even straighten alloy rims, and resurface to order. I checked some out to redo curb rash and refinish my BBS 3 piece rims on my 928S4.
have some real midget mag wheels from what u say I guess I need to blast the ruff stuff off frist to clean them
Great job, love the finished product. I just went through the same process on my BBS wheels on my 89′ M3
Burn off ovens usually work in the 800*-900* temp range. We get enough arguments about how the powder coating temp (400*) will effect the strength of the alloy wheel ( it doesn’t). 800*-900* is not a temp I would want to subject my alloy wheels too
Some of the instructions here is very bad advice for the novice powder coater. Powder should be sprayed in a layer between 1.5 and 3.0mil thickness. Shooting the powder onto a 350* wheel will make it flow immediately and give you a false judgement of how thick it is usually resulting in layers that may be 5-10mil. Powder layers too thick can lead to cracking of the powder. Also baking the parts for 25-30 minutes may or may not be enough time to fully cure your parts. The part itself (not the oven temp) needs to be at 400* for 10 minutes. A thin piece of sheet metal will reach 400* many minutes before a large cast alloy wheel will that may take up to 30-45 minutes just to get to temp before cure timing is started. If you put a wheel in the oven that was properly shot cold (room temp), which is the preferred method, 25-30 minutes in the oven will result in an under cured finish prone to failure.
I found an article on the Jockey Journal website for old motorcycle carbs using lemon juice. I followed the instructions exactly and completely refinished my old S & S Super B carb to look brand new in less than 30 minutes. Amazing stuff for old aluminum.
Vic,
MC carb cleaning has come a long way. Vapor blasting is one of many methods as is soaking in Pine Sol cleaner for a few days. If you need to get the carb ready for use, I use Yamaha carb cleaner solution in a crock pot until the inside looks brand new.
Richard
Good question! You can take a common funnel and mockup some mesh screen for a one-time type deal or we offer a screened-sifter for media here: http://www.eastwood.com/blast-media-sifter-screen.html
Thanks for reading,
Matt/EW
You mentioned sifting the blest media. What do you use to do this?
i can get a 40 year old carb looking better than new by starting with an inexpensive degreaser like awesome, then hitting it lightly with a semi-soft brass wire wheel. follow that with some mothers aluminum polish and the cloth buffing
I’ve reused wheel bolts before if they weren’t overtightened or damaged by the previous owner. I’ve also swapped out my hardware for new stainless hardware for piece of mind as well. Places like MSC, Fastenal, etc have most any size/type of hardware so you can closely match the original. The torque depends on the way the wheel seals and the type of bolt to use. 12-15ftlbs is a common torque spec for a lot of different split wheels in my experience. Thanks for the reply Gary!
My question is on the fasteners to hold the center section to the outer wheels. I have a set of 2 piece Gotti wheels using a 12 bolt button head socket cap bolt 5/16″ diameter. Do these need replacing or can they be reused? They look in great shape. What torque is recommended? Great write-up by the way.
Looking to change the wheels on your Honda, Mercedes, BMW, Chevrolet, Ford or other? There are a number of reasons why you might consider changing your wheels or rims. The first reason a lot of people buy aftermarket rim & wheel packages for their car is, the look and feel. Buying a new set of aftermarket wheels for your ride really makes your vehicle stand out from the rest. Alloy rims are one type of replacement that is extremely popular. These wheels are extremely reflective – yes, OK, you can say it. They’re shiny.
Most cleaners available usually contain an abrasive grit – usually finely ground talc that is simply powdered rock – to give the effect of a quick cleanup. In other words, most cleaners then become a grinding compound and the innocent rider is simply slowly grinding the chrome layer off the nickel exposing it to the air where it quickly corrodes – tiny scratch by tiny scratch. In many cases, people rub down to the copper as a yellowish hue begins to appear leading the rider to think he got bad or thin chrome!
Not sure if this is the method of asking this technical advise. I have been looking for ways of fixing my Ronal wheels and thought you could help. I have 15″ 3-piece ronals just like the ones shown in this article. The rear ones have a huge offset, not sure how to express it other than it is about 8″ deep from the outer lip. The inner lip is cracked and I need to replace it (that one is 3.5″ or so). How do I find replacements?
Thank you.
Tomas.
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Hmm no I have not heard of that method before personally, Id guess the oven would have to be well over the 400+ degrees the powder takes to burn normally to get the powder/paint to just bake off.. but I could be wrong?
-Matt/EW
Those rims look brand new! You know the old saying “one mans trash is another mans treasure.” Or something like that. Have you or anyone you know place the used rims into a burn-off oven to remove old paint or powder coating? I heard that works very well in combination with a blaster.
-Rob
Steve, the secret is all in the offset/backspacing of the wheel. If you find a 5″ wheel with a slightly higher offset than your 4.5″ width wheels, you may be able to tuck it under the fender. I know I have seen some old ATS “Classics” in mini sizes in numerous widths, might be a option to look up. Feel free to shoot me some pictures of what you are working with, and I’ll see if anything comes to mind on my end! mmurray@eastwood.com
-Matt/EW
Matt,
Hi and greetings from Mini builder in Va. Beach Va. I have a 1961 Austin Mini that I have been restoring for about 5 years now. A resto mod from the ground up and it is turning out like a piece of art. I have a wheel peoblem you may be able to help me with. I upgraded to 4.5 x 12″ wheels but the problem is all the good looking wheels only come in 5″ or bigger. My first choice is to use the steel wheels that I have and put a hub cap on but they only make a plastic one. I want to use a baby moon but there isnt one. I dont want to move up to a 5″ wheel as it is wider than the fender. And I dont want to use a fender flair and I know the 4.5 is the best running. So I need a hub cap or a great looking 4.5″ x 12″ wheel. I will forward some pictures. Thanks for any help. Steve
We do not sell a particular template for masking wheels I’m afraid. Have you thought of trying some of the thin masking tape that pin stripers use? You could do the fine lines and details with that and finish up with normal masking/painter’s tape on the larger areas. Hope that helps!
Looove old BMW’s. I had a gray market 633CSI project for a while, but gave it up as I ran out of space to store cars (and a few had to get sold). It even had a set of 16″ 3 piece alpinas on it, that I stupidly left go with the car for cheap. Live and learn!
I currently do not run wheel locks. I am lucky enough to live and work in a fairly crime-free area where my car is safe. I have considered investing in some “Euro Locks”, as a few friends have been using them with much success!
Awesome to hear about a early scirocco! I have a 77 Diamond Metallic Silver Scirocco that is a rolling project. It is #3 on my list of my vehicles to get a full resto!
Awesome! Please feel free to send email me directly (mmurray@eastwod.com) if you have any questions about the process. I’d also love to see what wheels you are working with! What brand/style are they?
Thanks! Yea there is only a handful of us, but I am doing my best to push how large the vintage Euro scene is!
Nice job man! I’m a big Euro car guy and have a full gound up resto-mod project now on my 97 VW GTI VR6 (smooth engine bay, etc). Good to hear that people at EASTWOOD are into Euros as well.
I have an old set of two piece racing rims that had begun to leak air badly. (down in two days). I had contemplated tossing them but your article telling me what type of sealant to use has given me a new project. Thanks for the information! Your rims turned out very nice.
I started not to read, I didn’t think I’d be interested.
The gentlemen that wrote this did a good job. The article included everything a person would need to know to restore the wheels.
I started not to read, I didn’t I’d be interested.
The gentlemen that wrote this did a good job. The article included everything a person would need to know to restore the wheels.
Great job Matt; those Ronals came out great! I love using AutoSol as well, I’ve been using it on my all my ’80 Scirocco’s polished trim and also use it to polish my ’99 F150’s headlights when they dull up!
Nice job on those wheels. I’ve used Eagle One Mag Wheel Cleaner to clean some disgustingly dirty old wheels before, but you do have be be careful using the stuff. Some of us don’t have access to a nice blast cabinet.
That really seems to have worked out well. I, too, had bought some eBay wheels and they all turned out to be so badly bent that they were unusable. I’ve decided to use them on a newly fabricated mig/plasma cutter cart! Yes, it will be big!
With wheels as nice and rare as those, what are you using as far as lug locks to ensure that they won’t roll away, being “borrowed” on a permanent basis by some moron? After I had the bad eBay experience, I ordered brand new factory wheels, at significant cost, as you can imagine, and I would like them to stay on the car, at least for a while!
Thanks for the write up and I look forward to seeing more!
did or does Eastwood still carry a paint masking template for rostyle wheels? I have a 73 MGB in need of a redo and its seems I’ve seen something simpler then all that masking tape.
Nice article! Big fan of 70’s and 80’s german metal (80s BMW 5-series and BMW 2002s for me). I look forward to checking out the metal protect product.
Easy reading article, very well done.
Hey. this was great. The results were super!
Would love to see a step by step on restoring motorcycle carbs.
Getting the same clean/new finish as a pro carb restorers are able to do has eluded me.
Thanks again for all the pic and details.
Vic